I've played an MMO called tibia since 1999 and been in a top server guild with mostly the same people since 2006. We have emergency Whatsapp chats to get people online who arಞen't near a computer, we sit in an AFK voice team speak chat to get pulled into a loud active chat if we're all needed at once. It's a full time job dominating a server in a pvp game. I'll never get tired of it. I ran home from a prom party and literally jumped out of a window in high school to get home to fight a war. These guilds require a certain type of players and that's okay, it's not for everyone. There is a ton of casual contenꦇt in TL you can play without hating on players who decide to no life the game.